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Fact: Almost all people, who are researching their ancestors in England & Wales, will hit the "Getting Back Before 1837" brick wall.

"How To Quickly and Easily Research Your Family Tree in England and Wales Going Back Before 1837 !"

How to get back before 1837 in English and Welsh family history records download tutorial-How to get back before 1837 in England and Wales
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If you are struggling to track down your ancestors before the census records and civil registration began, then let me tell you that you are not alone...most people hit the 1837 brick wall and find it difficult to research further back because of a lack of census and civil records in that time and knowing what alternatives to use...


I spend a lot of time reading the family history magazines, the on-line forums and blogs.. and the question that I see being regularly asked is:

"If it is so difficult to break through this brick wall date then how do the Professional Genealogists overcome the obstacles associated with researching anything before 1837 in England and Wales?"

Parish Records Pre-1837

Simply learning how to use little known resources will vastly improve your research and help you to overcome these difficulties!

Armed with only with a better understanding of the key records pre-1837 it is possible for you to go on and find your British Isles forebears and break through the brick walls you may have encountered before in researching your family tree.

Dear Family Historian,

There are simply millions of us who now have the family tree researching bug. We are curious about where we came from and what our ancestors did. We wonder if their characteristics have been passed down to us in our genes.

It is true that never before has it been so easy for the average person, with just a home connection to the internet, to do some delving and find out who their great-grandparents were.

It usually doesn't take us more than a search of the census collections online to find that out. We can easily go to other websites, press a few buttons and find our ancestor's births, marriages and deaths without having to leave our home if we don't want to.

We needn't make visits to Record offices, The National Archives, family history centres or the dusty corners of city libraries to do any of this simple research and so we begin to think that everything is online.

What is really frustrating is when the records seem to run out. I'm talking here about 1837, the year when you stop being able to find your ancestors fairly easily in the state run censuses, or the birth marriage and death indexes in England and Wales.

These are the kind of records that have made it online, but pre-1837 is more difficult. Even with the number of new records being digitized and released online this is still the tip of the iceberg! There are millions of records tucked away in archives and record offices that we may not have thought of using to find our elusive ancestors.

Yet it needn't be the end of the line for your research, when you hit this barrier.

All you need is some good old fashioned normal common sense, a willingness to start and apply the techniques of researching in these little known records and resources and you can be off and running again.

Your friends and family will be blown away with the extra generations of ancestors you may unearth after using these data collections and archives that I reveal.

The ancestry research boom is phenomenal. If you don't believe me then just look at the viewing figures for Who Do You Think You Are? which pulls in several millions of American viewers each time it is aired.

Even in the UK there was a mind blowing 6.5 million viewers who recently tuned in to see the show! Let me put that in context, that was as much as a cool 2 million more than the average for this programme slot.

Take it from me our hobby is popular... very popular indeed! There is little doubt that we in the twenty-first century are pretty fascinated by family research.

Some of us nurture hopes of being related to the rich and famous, while others of us hope to hear about a family scandal. Or perhaps we are longing to find that skeleton that is lurking in our ancestral cupboard and just waiting to fall out into our hands?

Ancestors at a family wedding.

Once we take our investigation back in time and come up against the lack of state records, then we are suddenly faced with a problem. It is the need to consider a much wider variety of documents in order to find our family lines.

We may, at first, baulk at the thought of the extra work that this entails. But, just for a moment, look on the bright side. Just think how much more satisfying it will be to uncover more details about our forebears than most other people can be bothered to do, or who will be skilled enough to succeed.

Sure, we know that so many of the viewers of Who Do You Think You Are? are interested in their roots, but how many of them can actually sit down and do the research that we can?

Very few!


Because they just don't have the time, or they think that they don't have the skills. Some may have dabbled and hit a brick wall and then just given up. But once you learn how to crack this area, of family history research, tracing your line back into the past can massively increase the enjoyableness of your hobby.

For me, there is the shear excitement of the chase through historical records. Take it from me, trips to the County Record Offices, The National Archives and The Society of Genealogists is fun.

There is the detective work that has to be done that finally provides the clue which reveals one more generation of my family. All of this can be so much more satisfying to achieve than just finding great-grandparents in the census collection online.

Now, yes I will agree that there are times when you will hit brick walls and nothing more can be done to find that elusive character. But there are times that, with a little extra skill, a person such as yourself could break through and track down an ancestor.

Of course you need to know where to look to find some of the records that I am talking about. The sort of resources that a Professional Genealogist is taught to use.

And I know how useful and helpful these will be in helping you go back before 1837 and that's why I've recorded:

How To Get Back Before 1837

This audio will aid you to learn by listening to my tutorial. I explain to you the genealogy websites you need to use, the record offices and archives you can visit and what you can hope to uncover about your forebears' lives.  

How to get back before 1837 in English and Welsh family history

How to Get Back Before 1837 audio tutorial file available on CD and as a download


I want to share with you my personal experiences in tracing family history over the years and also what I have learnt from other genealogists that I have exchanged information and techniques with.

Such things as how to mine down for more detail and how to get the most from the membership sites such as Ancestry, The and Findmypast. In this hobby, I have found that some people love to share their know how, while others feel the need to keep secrets.

I have read countless editions of the various Family History magazines and I have gone through other peoples courses to gather all the latest gen on what these professionals are teaching.

This easy to understand and informative audio tutorial will play automatically on your computer or MP3 player (download product) whether it is in the house or in the car. This means that, Fred Smith from down the road, or Jane Doe living thousands and thousands of miles away from me on the other side of the world will be able to listen to the useful information it contains!

  •  Learn where to look for little known records

  •  Discover the resources that the Professional Genealogist use

  •  Researching online and in the record offices/archives

  •  Listen to the tutorial or read the full transcript

What's this Valuable audio file going to cost?

I thought long and hard about the pricing of this audio and let me tell you, I came to a decision that I think you'll love. I'll tell you in a second... but first I need to emphasise what this tutorial could do for you.  

  • If you are searching for ancestors before 1837 in England & Wales then this audio tutorial is going to show you where and how to look for them.
  • If you are already a Family History Researcher and to date you've just been going back through the census and BMD indexes, then there is a whole new set of resources that you are going to be introduced to.

And so returning to the question of how much this Audio file should cost; I think you'll agree that it really does present you with a resource of great value. And if we go back to the reasons WHY I developed this tutorial, I mentioned that I wanted to make it available at a reasonable price so that as many researchers could use the information without it burning a hole in their pockets. I've seen tutorials being sold at really silly prices.

Well, relax! You are not going to be asked by me to part with anything stupid for this audio file. All you'll ever have to invest in this is..$17.   And that's it! An amazing audio resource, a tutorial that you will be able to go back to and play time and time again!

But wait just a moment!

I've got a very special deal for you today...





You can have immediate access to the "How to Get Back Before 1837" Audio download free or be sent the CD free and with my compliments if you take a 30 day trial of my Family History Researcher Academy English/Welsh family history course for only $14.

That is a bargain... as you save three dollars on the cost of this valuable audio!

The reason why I am doing this is that I would really like you to come and experience the richness of knowledge in the Family History Researcher Academy's English/Welsh family history course.


So for an investment of $14 you can take a 30 day trial of the English/Welsh 52 module course AND download the How to Get Back Before 1837 audio or get the CD for less than its selling elsewhere!*

* Available as a download for $17 here:

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= $14
How to Get Back Before 1837 audio file CD or MP3 &      Family History Researcher Academy's English/Welsh course

I'd like you see what the Family History Researcher Academy English/Welsh course has to offer and I know that you will be so pleased with the extra insight that you will pick up from the pdf modules, that you will want to stay and be sent a tutorial each week for the next year.

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The course is made up of 52 lessons that show you just where to look in the many records, resources and which tools to use to find your elusive ancestors in such places as The National Archives, the County and City Record Offices, in online databases and in the archives.

After you have seen how valuable these tutorial guides are I am sure that you will agree to stay on as a member for $14 a month over the next 11 months. In this time you will receive another 48 guides, as long as you wish to remain a member.

The modules are packed with information that will provide you with many useful tips and techniques to help you research your English or Welsh family history. Now that boils down to only $3.50 a tutorial guide! Great value, as I am sure you would agree?

Just take a look at this list of topics below...

  • The census collections

  • The Parish records

  • The Parish Chest

  • Dade Registers

  • County Record offices and the valuable treasures they contain

  • Nonconformist registers

  • Religious records

  • Clandestine marriages

  • City and Town Directories

  • Census substitutes

  • Apprentices

  • Professionals

  • Army

  • Royal Navy


  • Merchant Navy

  • Illegitimacy

  • The Workhouse

  • Poor Law

  • Death records

  • Burial

  • Wills

  • Rural ancestors

  • Bankrupts

  • Black sheep

  • Genetics and DNA

  • Occupations

  • Maps and Charts

  • The National Archives

  • Other depositories

  • Family Search Centres

  • Passports

  • Manorial records

  • Newspapers

  • and  much more!

On top of this, you get the How To Get Back Before 1837 Audio file and several bonuses. All of which you can keep even if you do decide to cancel your trial subscription to Family History Researcher!

So what else do you get by joining my Family History Researcher Guides membership site?

4 Tips that professional genealogists use

2 Quick ways to push your family history research even further back in time

Analysis of which data sets can really help you to expand your tree

How to find new leads

What other information can be used to build the story of your ancestor's life? (We all know that cold statistics like date of birth marriage and death can be so boring!)

All this delivered in a package of 52 weekly modules in Pdf format (requires Adobe Acrobat) with a download link sent to your inbox by email each week, for as long as you remain a member

Fantastic value: Your initial charge will be just $14( and for that you also get the How To Get Back Before 1837 Audio that I normally sell for $17 ) after this you will only be charged $14 a month for the next 11 months. You are also free to cancel at any time, no questions asked

Chose if you want to have the CD mailed to you, or just download the MP3 and then CLICK the button below to join the course trial. You will be able to cancel at any time:

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Your Extra Value Bonuses Package - Just Because You Are Ordering Today...   Before I tell you about them, let me reveal to you that these bonuses are worth a small fortune...especially when you consider the valuable information that they contain.

Information that could cost you much much more in the lack of satisfaction if you were to give up and not find that ancestor. Knowledge, without which, you may have to turn your project over to a professional genealogist; with the added cost of using their services to consider.

Bonus 1: Audio Download link

 Audio Podcast


Bonus 2:

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The pdf transcript of the audio tutorial "Help Me Get Back Before 1837" delivered as a download. Many people find that reading can help set the knowledge acquired in the audio into their brains.


My Full Satisfaction Guarantee Promise To You

So what do you think? Don't you agree that I've provided you with a really great deal here?

I hope you do. And look, I'm so totally convinced that this How to Get Back Before 1837 Audio Tutorial will add plenty of knowledge to your family research tool box that I'm putting my money where my mouth is and issuing you with my cast iron guarantee.

Use the information from this Audio file and the written tutorials for a month and try out the techniques. See for yourself that they work.

If, at any time during that one month you decide that it is not everything that I promised then simply let me know and I'll cancel your membership of the Family History Researcher course and refund you the $14. You get to keep the material I have already sent!

I want you to understand that I am genuine. I'm no one trick pony, nor am I a hit and run opportunity seeker. I'm here for the long run and I dearly hope that you'll become a customer of mine for life.

Try the course and use the information in the valuable Audio recording for 30 days. In that time my quibble free guarantee is I'll refund your money in full if you decide it is not for you.

You will be completely free to keep the reports and tutorials that you have already had as well as the How To Get Back before 1837 Audio file.

I don't have any nasty clauses to this guarantee, I won't ask you to explain why, or ask you to jump through administrative hoops; just send me a note and keep the material that you have received.

Make the move today and join a growing band of family historians who are experiencing the thrill and joy of getting back before 1837.

Just look at these quotes that I have on file from members who have already joined the Family History Researcher Academy English/Welsh family history course:

"You communicate in an understandable way! Thank you for the modules that I have had so far" P. Martin.
"I have enjoyed the time as a FHR member and thank you for your helping hand in trying to solve a problem printing out the guides." T. M.   U.K.
"I would like to thank you for the resources, which I have received weekly, they are very interesting and informative, also a big thank you for the brilliant customer service ." P Beilby.
"I am finding the course very useful, even though I have been doing family history for many years." Kind Regards, H. Stephens.

...and here is a review of the original How To Get Back Before 1837 audio printed in a British family history magazine:

Quote from Family History Monthly

Look, there really is nothing to lose, and to be honest with you, an enormous amount to gain. If you learn the way to get back in early records you will be a better Genealogist and know where to look for your forebears. This tutorial will explain to you just how to go the extra mile simply and easily.  

Remember this audio is as user friendly as they come!
  • Audio file to play on your computer or MP3 player.

  • Free transcript to print out and read.

  • Download link to bonus Family History audio file.

  • The trial membership of Family History Researcher Academy English/Welsh course is delivered by email each week with a link to download a new pdf tutorial.


Yours, Nick Thorne 

Nick Thorne.  

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P.S. Professional Genealogist adds his contribution! The Family History Researcher Academy is pleased to reveal that Anthony Adolph, a professional genealogist and author, has written a tutorial for us on tracing aristocratic ancestors. He explains how many more of us, than we may think, have these types of ancestors; even if we are descended from them "on the wrong side of the blanket"!

P.P.S. We have also secured lessons from other professional genealogists, as well as online content providers including Mark Bayley, Head of Online Content at TheGenealogist.

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